Item usable with delayed consumption (Item Scroll)

Originally posted by [b]Kenpachi[/b]
Well, that can't be solved by editing database files. I'll move it to the core section.

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
Anyone can confirm this?..

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
Here's my Video..

[url="http://youtu.be/voYb0bK4TNU"]http://youtu.be/voYb0bK4TNU[/url]

Originally posted by [b]Ind[/b]
[quote name='kyeme' timestamp='1339173781' post='10219']
On Official the number of scroll should be lessen upon clicking or using it on the target . However when clicking it, the number of scroll doesnt change until it is successfuly casted on the target.~ another is the assump scroll the description says that this item wont work while the user is casting a spell or skill. However you can cast skills and use assump scroll at the same time.
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please tell me what is it that rathena does wrong/unproperly? i'm sorry i didn't understand it.

Originally posted by [b]clydelion[/b]
He's saying that it should be consumed immediately upon usage(not wait for the user to select target before consuming)

Originally posted by [b]Ind[/b]
then i want more confirmations because this means the item delayed consumption stuff is to be trashed

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
@clydelion Yes it is correct that is what I'm saying.

[s]-Edit- Not only the [b]Item Scroll[/b] but also all the [b]Usable Item[/b]
except "Neuralizer" are consumed immediately while the user is casting a spell or skill.[/s]

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
To reproduce..

[b]Using Item Scroll[/b] (ex. item: Heal Scroll)
On Official:
Click the Heal Scroll = target cursor showed up (Heal Scroll consumed immediately after you click it)

On athena:
Click the Heal Scroll = target cursor showed up (the number of scroll doesn't change until it is successfuly casted on the target)

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
Please comfirm this. Thank you

Originally posted by [b]clydelion[/b]
Is it like this in Pre-RE too?

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
[quote name='clydelion' timestamp='1344437062' post='13085']
Is it like this in Pre-RE too?
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Yes, Pre-Renewal and Renewal. Can you confirm this?

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
Bump~

Originally posted by [b]Ind[/b]
no one else confirmed, this is sad |: I'll take some time to get into a official server and test this personally then

Originally posted by [b]Ind[/b]
I confirmed.

Originally posted by [b]Ind[/b]
I'll be working on getting to find out how this is supposed to work, because delayed consume is a official item type, either we're applying it wrong or it stopped being used long ago.

Originally posted by [b]Ind[/b]
I've confirmed with muad_dib as well, well at least it seems the items are on the wrong item type (they shouldn't be in delayed consumption) which makes it a database bug and I'll move it back to database section.

Originally posted by [b]Kenpachi[/b]
So what exactly makes an item usage delayed?
Is it that it checks its use-conditions before being consumed? If that's the point there are more item then Neutralizer. For example Battle Manual, Mercenary Scrolls, Mercenary Potions and some more...

Originally posted by [b]kyeme[/b]
The behavior is like "Unripe Apple" itemid: 619 . this item will consume Immediately after you click it and the target cursor show up.

Originally posted by [b]Kenpachi[/b]
If it's consumed immediately it's not delayed. oO

Originally posted by [b]Ind[/b]
[quote name='Kenpachi' timestamp='1345914365' post='13743']
If it's consumed immediately it's not delayed. oO
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the item is using item type 11 (delayed consumption) while it should be either 0 or 2 (consumable/instant consumption)

Originally posted by [b]Kenpachi[/b]
The task is clear.
But the question still is is: Is it the fact that an item checks its using condition(s) before being consumed and only is consumed when all conditions are fulfilled which makes an item usage delayed or are there more things I have to check?

Originally posted by [b]mkbu95[/b]
Changing to 0 or 2 indeed fixes, but if only someone can provide an answer to Kenpachi

Originally posted by [b]Kenpachi[/b]
It's probably like I said... If an item is of type "delayed consumption" it checks the conditions before being used and only is consumed when all the conditions are fulfilled.

Originally posted by [b]MarkZD[/b]
[quote name='Kenpachi' timestamp='1346394683' post='13922']
The task is clear.But the question still is is: Is it the fact that an item checks its using condition(s) before being consumed and only is consumed when all conditions are fulfilled which makes an item usage delayed or are there more things I have to check?
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When a item is delayed and you click on it during delay nothing happens, if the delay time has past and you click to use the item, it's consumed BEFORE the effect, not during, not after, even if you don't use it.

This is how official act.

Up~ :P

My anniversary :P

Bump~

Up~ :)

[quote name="kyeme" timestamp="1389929489"]
Up~ :)[/quote]

Kyeme, do you have all the list of the items that is affected of this report? please message me so i can start make a pull request to close this report. thanks!

Update:
[color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Official: the number of scroll should be lessen upon clicking or using it on the target.[/size][/font][/color]

[color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Hercules: when clicking it, the number of scroll doesnt change until it is successfuly casted on the target.[/size][/font][/color]


[url="http://herc.ws/board/tracker/issue-7913-resurrection/?gopid=21506#entry21506"]PS: As of now, I have noticed upon using Yggdrassil Leaf after a cast delay status, item does not disappear (example: if i use Storm Gust followed by Yggdrassil Leaf, it won't work and it will not disappear in your inventory)[/url]

[url="https://github.com/HerculesWS/Hercules/issues/888"]https://github.com/HerculesWS/Hercules/issues/888[/url]