Monster Spiral Pierce

Originally posted by [b]Reapeddeamon[/b]
the dmg is def too high

[img]http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/599475_326721327403637_1250918888_n.jpg[/img]

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
ATM the atk2 of monster is used as the replacement of the weapon weight..
So for now I'll it would be need more info so if someone can show some official data i'll fix it asap....

Originally posted by [b]Ikari Gendo[/b]
is it possible to do a temp fix with about 200-400 for the weapon weight, like the normal weapons weights are

Originally posted by [b]MarkZD[/b]
In this video it's possible to see spiral is just a little higher than normal atk.
[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0_AEIPFshs[/media]

Apparently, there's no weapon weight part involved in mob's spiral.

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
hahaha..I like how the Seyren owned..hehehe..and the FF BGM...

so ok lets do the computation..

DATA:
SP = 1872 * 5 = 9360
atk1=1670
atk2=1987

Formula:
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]Floor[Floor(Weapon Weight/2)*skill level + [/size][/font][/color][url="http://irowiki.org/wiki/ATK"]ATK[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] ]*(100%+50%*s.lvl)[/size][/font][/color]

first theory when weight is 0
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]min: (0/2*5 + 1670) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 5845[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]max:[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] (0/2*5 + 1987) * (100+50*5) / 100 = [/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]6954[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]second theory when weight is atk2[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]min: (1987*5 + 1670) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 40617[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]max:[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] (1987*5 + 1987) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 41727[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]third theory when weight is atk2/20[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]min: (1987/20*5 + 1670) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 7577[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]max:[/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] (1987/20*5 + 1987) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 8687[/size][/font][/color]


[color=#4b0082][font=sans-serif][size=3]fourth theory when weight is atk1/10[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#4b0082][font=sans-serif][size=3]min: (1670/10*5 + 1670) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 8767[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#4b0082][font=sans-serif][size=3]max:[/size][/font][font=sans-serif][size=3] (1670/10*5 + 1987) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 9877[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#4B0082][font=sans-serif][size=3]fifth theory when weight is atk2/10[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#4B0082][font=sans-serif][size=3]min: (1987/10*5 + 1670) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 9310[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#4B0082][font=sans-serif][size=3]max:[/size][/font][font=sans-serif][size=3] (1987/10*5 + 1987) * (100+50*5) / 100 = 10419[/size][/font][/color]

[font=sans-serif][size=3]the fourth/fifth theory seems to be the nearest how ever we need to have mo test data to support this theory like other mobs like Doppel, Kasa and etc...[/size][/font]

Originally posted by [b]MarkZD[/b]
You forgot that its formula is for each hit.

So the first would be the nearest as it was hitting a little more than 2k per hit, we have to suppose those chars were equiped, etc so this 6k hit was decreased to something like 2~3k per hit.

Originally posted by [b]Ikari Gendo[/b]
[size=3][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]with those data from the video and the calculations, the weapon [color=#000000]Weight for monstes should be 0[/color][/font][/size]

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
[quote]You forgot that its formula is for each hit.[/quote]
nope its the overall damage then divided per 5 hits...



[quote][size=3][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]with those data from the video and the calculations, the weapon [color=#000000]Weight for monstes should be 0[/color][/font][/size][/quote]
I doubt..cause the damage is kinda larger than the normal atks which only boost by 350%...

Originally posted by [b]MarkZD[/b]
From irowiki, this formula you pointed is:

[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]Formula: Floor[Floor(Weapon Weight/2)*skill level + [/size][/font][/color][url="http://irowiki.org/wiki/ATK"]ATK[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] ]*(100%+50%*s.lvl) * 5 multi-hits[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]If it's divided, shouldn't it be: / 5 multi-hits?[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]It's odd.[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]5845 * 0.7(thara)[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]floor(4091,5) * 0.8 (raydric)[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]3272 - def[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]This damage is very near to 2.xk from video.[/size][/font][/color]

Originally posted by [b]Ikari Gendo[/b]
no on iro wiki the formular is: Formula: Floor[Floor(Weapon Weight/2)*skill level + ATK ]*(100%+50%*s.lvl)[b] * 5 multi-hits[/b]

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
ooops..my bad....
ok I'll re-code SP....and fix it later...

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
Fixed @ [rev='16316']