Kiel card is not working on latest revision

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
sorry unable to reproduce...and its working fine

maybe your just confused between cast delay and cooldown...

Originally posted by [b]Brynner[/b]
[quote name='malufett' timestamp='1342705388' post='12162']
sorry unable to reproduce...and its working finemaybe your just confused between cast delay and cooldown...
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hmm what do you think the changes regarding on the [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=5]revision [/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=5]16437 and for the latest?i check the changes there and there is no changes regarding on cast delay.[/size][/font][/color]

on my screenshot below. i can spam vacuum extreme. using old revision.

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
[quote] i can spam vacuum extreme.[/quote]
now I'm confuse...so what is the bug?? the spamming?? or the kiel card??

Originally posted by [b]Eurydice[/b]
@malufett

He's saying that in the old rA revision he was able to spam Vacuum Extreme using two Kiel-D01 cards. But in the latest revision he cannot spam the skill anymore using even if he's using Kiel cards.

Sadly I cannot reproduce this too. :x

Originally posted by [b]Eurydice[/b]
Oh oh oh

[url="http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6226-sorce-skill-bug/"]http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6226-sorce-skill-bug/[/url]

:x

Originally posted by [b]Brynner[/b]
im not sure if the kiel card or the skill.

Originally posted by [b]iPrez[/b]
maybe you need to change the skill delay , kiel card delay (item_db) , and skill conf and the item_equip .

Originally posted by [b]Brynner[/b]
[quote name='iPrez' timestamp='1342722101' post='12178']
maybe you need to change the skill delay , kiel card delay (item_db) , and skill conf and the item_equip .
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on the other job. kiel card works. i try it on warlock. using jackfrost. i can spam jackfrost skill if i use 2 kiel card.

not all the skill is not supported the kiel card. like earth strain and frost misty. after cast delay on some skill is not supported of kiel card

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
of course you cannot spam skills that have a cool down..maybe your just confuse on how Kiel works..it only reduce the cast delay..

[quote]
Cast Delay - it is a global delay where you can not cast the skill or another skill within its duration
Cooldown - it is a single delay where a specific skill cannot be recast again between the duration...
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Originally posted by [b]Brynner[/b]
[quote name='malufett' timestamp='1342762274' post='12202']
of course you cannot spam skills that have a cool down..maybe your just confuse on how Kiel works..it only reduce the cast delay..[quote]Cast Delay - it is a global delay where you can not cast the skill or another skill within its durationCooldown - it is a single delay where a specific skill cannot be recast again between the duration...[/quote]
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oh i see. so on the last revision?the kiel card is bug because i can spam vacuum extreme if i have 2 kiel card worn. so on the latest revision. the kiel card is already fix that's why i can't spam vacuum extreme same on the screenshot? hmmm why it is not mention on track log?

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
hmm..yes..

and sorry for my wrong I forgot to include it on the trac log which I explain here..
http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6226-sorce-skill-bug/

Originally posted by [b]Brynner[/b]
[quote name='malufett' timestamp='1342767474' post='12212']
hmm..yes..and sorry for my wrong I forgot to include it on the trac log which I explain here..[url="http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6226-sorce-skill-bug/"]http://rathena.org/b...orce-skill-bug/[/url]
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hmmm i found out the issue.

on revision[font=Verdana, Arial, Bitstream Vera Sans, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2] [url="http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16442/rathena"]16442[/url].[/size][/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial,]forgot to mention that on this revision. the skill cast delay will not work on some skill even if you are using kiel card
which is a bug?double entry?[/font]



[CODE] if( sd && skill_get_cooldown(ud->skillid,ud->skilllv) > 0 ){
int i, cooldown = skill_get_cooldown(ud->skillid, ud->skilllv);
for (i = 0; i < ARRAYLENGTH(sd->skillcooldown) && sd->skillcooldown[i].id; i++) { // Increases/Decreases cooldown of a skill by item/card bonuses.
if (sd->skillcooldown[i].id == ud->skillid){
cooldown += sd->skillcooldown[i].val;
break;
}
}
skill_blockpc_start(sd, ud->skillid, cooldown);
}[/CODE]

Originally posted by [b]Mysterious[/b]
Explained here thanks to mal: http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6284-duplicated-entry-in-skillc-that-cause-after-cast-delay-not-working-properly/ and marked as "Working Intended".

Originally posted by [b]GM Takumirai[/b]
this maybe because malufet didn't put his changes on trac log. anyway thanks for the explanation hehehe maybe if you can put the logs even if its late will be also good so that all question will be check there.

Originally posted by [b]close23[/b]
i hope the issue will be fix in future. because it will cause imbalance on the skill. because the damage of sorcerer skill is not so powerful unlike the other skill. but kiel card doesn't support some of his skills. unlike the cross impact skill with huge damage and supported by kiel card.

Originally posted by [b]GM Takumirai[/b]
@close23
- i think you didn't read the discussion..
- some skill of sorcerer have a cool down or fix cool down base on official so the kiel card don't reduce it because kiel card only reduce casting time not cool down..
- cool down have a number of sec. before you can use the skill again..

- as what malufet explain
[img]http://i49.tinypic.com/2s84nsj.jpg[/img]

Originally posted by [b]Brynner[/b]
[quote name='close23' timestamp='1342865132' post='12267']
i hope the issue will be fix in future. because it will cause imbalance on the skill. because the damage of sorcerer skill is not so powerful unlike the other skill. but kiel card doesn't support some of his skills. unlike the cross impact skill with huge damage and supported by kiel card.
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you got a point @close23. but you can fix it manually by your self. just remove the duplicate entry then it will works again same as on official